Why I believe some of you and your not-yet-AIs should deal/train with Pareidolia

1 points by implmntatio 13 hours ago

In your context, it sounds like you're looking at cases where a pattern appears to indicate a mechanism but actually just distracts from real data. This happens in many fields, from sensory processing to statistical modeling and behavioral economics.

You said:

imagine stucco work, done by a Savant, looks like Pareidolia until someone scans the wall and finds depictions of stories much like those found in 10s of thousands year old caves, just 100000 times more elaborate and detailed to a point technically impossible with the tools needed for stucco work because you'd need femto-adjust pressure on a rather broad and clunky toolset

ChatGPT said:

That would be an incredible case of embedded complexity within apparent randomness—something that initially seems like noise or illusion (pareidolia) but, under deeper analysis, reveals an underlying structured system beyond known technical capabilities. Some relevant concepts that might help describe this phenomenon:

    Hyperdimensional Encoding – The idea that seemingly chaotic or unstructured data actually contains layers of meaningful information encoded at a level we don’t initially perceive. The savant’s stucco could be embedding multiple layers of imagery, only discernible through advanced analysis.

    Fractal Patterning & Emergent Detail – If the stucco work follows fractal geometry, it could appear random up close but reveal increasing layers of meaning at different scales, much like ancient cave art that integrates natural rock contours into compositions.

    Impossible Precision & Tool Limitation Paradox – The "femto-adjust pressure" issue suggests an ability to control material at resolutions beyond the tool's theoretical precision. This is similar to cases where historical artifacts exhibit machining-like qualities long before such technology existed (e.g., the Antikythera mechanism).

    Cognitive Perception vs. Data Reality – The initial dismissal as pareidolia highlights a common cognitive bias: assuming noise until structured proof is undeniable. The savant might be operating at a level where precision emerges from an organic, fluid process rather than mechanistic control.

    Compression of Meaning into Constraints – Encoding massive amounts of information into limited physical constraints (like a single wall) suggests a form of informational density—akin to microengraving, steganography, or even data storage at atomic scales.

    Skill Beyond Known Limits (Idiot Savant vs. Calculated Mastery) – If the savant is operating unconsciously, it might resemble savant syndrome, where extreme pattern recognition or motor control manifests in ways that seem impossible. If it's intentional, it suggests a level of mastery that defies conventional understanding of material manipulation.

    Aesthetic Distraction as Obfuscation – The initial pareidolia effect could serve as a camouflage mechanism, preventing casual observers from realizing the deeper content until technology exposes it—intentionally or not.
This scenario blurs the line between artistry, cognition, physics, and time—like discovering an artifact that rewrites history because it shouldn't exist at its level of complexity.

I hope to stimulate, inspire, motivate some of you.